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		<title>By: dto510</title>
		<link>http://futureoaklandblog.com/2007/11/redevelopment-review/#comment-309</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One problem with that report is that the market-rate housing at Wood Street is not, in fact, as expensive as the phrase &quot;high market prices&quot; implies, with many condos under $300k, well within the official affordability thresholds. Also, the city provides downpayment and other assistance to first-time homeowners.

I understand that tax credits are a good source of development financing, as they are sold off and thus converted to cash. Do rental units for lower incomes receive more tax credits? I am very suspicious of non-profit developers&#039; claims to target low-income folks, since they gravitate toward 100% AMI condos just like the private sector, but do it with public subsidy. Recently, EBALDC received units, as part of a city settlement, that were subsidized rentals. EBALDC is going to &quot;sell&quot; them as BMR condos, removing them from the rental market and targeted a higher-income group than the folks there before. The neighbors in the building objected to the below-market &quot;ownership&quot; units, saying they would compete with their own units when they were resold, and asked that the units be preserved as low-income rentals. The only explanation the Council could give was that it was cheaper to set them up as BMR condos, and they didn&#039;t care that they weren&#039;t rentals or for low-income families.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One problem with that report is that the market-rate housing at Wood Street is not, in fact, as expensive as the phrase &#8220;high market prices&#8221; implies, with many condos under $300k, well within the official affordability thresholds. Also, the city provides downpayment and other assistance to first-time homeowners.</p>
<p>I understand that tax credits are a good source of development financing, as they are sold off and thus converted to cash. Do rental units for lower incomes receive more tax credits? I am very suspicious of non-profit developers&#8217; claims to target low-income folks, since they gravitate toward 100% AMI condos just like the private sector, but do it with public subsidy. Recently, EBALDC received units, as part of a city settlement, that were subsidized rentals. EBALDC is going to &#8220;sell&#8221; them as BMR condos, removing them from the rental market and targeted a higher-income group than the folks there before. The neighbors in the building objected to the below-market &#8220;ownership&#8221; units, saying they would compete with their own units when they were resold, and asked that the units be preserved as low-income rentals. The only explanation the Council could give was that it was cheaper to set them up as BMR condos, and they didn&#8217;t care that they weren&#8217;t rentals or for low-income families.</p>
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		<title>By: dr</title>
		<link>http://futureoaklandblog.com/2007/11/redevelopment-review/#comment-308</link>
		<dc:creator>dr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look at page 7 of the staff report:  &quot;Because of the high development costs of ownership housing, the lack of other subsidies for ownership programs, and the high market prices of new market rate ownership housing at Wood Street, even if additional financing from other sources is available, it would be very difficult to target households below 80% of AMI.  Thus ownership units developed with Agency assistance and those bought with down payment assistance loans described in this report will be targeted to households up to 100% of AMI.&quot; It&#039;s actually cheaper for nonprofits to do rental even at incomes down to 50-60% AMI because they have access to more funding sources like low income housing tax credits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at page 7 of the staff report:  &#8220;Because of the high development costs of ownership housing, the lack of other subsidies for ownership programs, and the high market prices of new market rate ownership housing at Wood Street, even if additional financing from other sources is available, it would be very difficult to target households below 80% of AMI.  Thus ownership units developed with Agency assistance and those bought with down payment assistance loans described in this report will be targeted to households up to 100% of AMI.&#8221; It&#8217;s actually cheaper for nonprofits to do rental even at incomes down to 50-60% AMI because they have access to more funding sources like low income housing tax credits.</p>
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		<title>By: dto510</title>
		<link>http://futureoaklandblog.com/2007/11/redevelopment-review/#comment-299</link>
		<dc:creator>dto510</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but what&#039;s the point of the 100% AMI units? They&#039;re available to people making $82k/yr, who are eligible for homeownership assistance from the city to boot. The market-rate condos at Central Station seem very cheap. Why shouldn&#039;t the city spend every last penny on the low-income rentals, even if it means fewer subsidized units overall?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but what&#8217;s the point of the 100% AMI units? They&#8217;re available to people making $82k/yr, who are eligible for homeownership assistance from the city to boot. The market-rate condos at Central Station seem very cheap. Why shouldn&#8217;t the city spend every last penny on the low-income rentals, even if it means fewer subsidized units overall?</p>
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		<title>By: V Smoothe</title>
		<link>http://futureoaklandblog.com/2007/11/redevelopment-review/#comment-300</link>
		<dc:creator>V Smoothe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you understood the staff correctly.(?) The BMR ownership units would, under the current proposal, be available at a range of affordability, that range being 60%-100% AMI. EBHO&#039;s suggestion was to change this, splitting the affordable units so that part would be BMR ownership, and those would &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; go to 100% AMI, while the remainder would be rental, targeted to 30-60% AMI. So under that plan, we would be providing less subsidy for ownership units, and could use the money instead for rental housing that would serve needier populations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you understood the staff correctly.(?) The BMR ownership units would, under the current proposal, be available at a range of affordability, that range being 60%-100% AMI. EBHO&#8217;s suggestion was to change this, splitting the affordable units so that part would be BMR ownership, and those would <i>all</i> go to 100% AMI, while the remainder would be rental, targeted to 30-60% AMI. So under that plan, we would be providing less subsidy for ownership units, and could use the money instead for rental housing that would serve needier populations.</p>
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		<title>By: dto510</title>
		<link>http://futureoaklandblog.com/2007/11/redevelopment-review/#comment-301</link>
		<dc:creator>dto510</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, that&#039;s not a bad idea. It does unscore that 100% AMI units aren&#039;t far from market-rate, so cost less subsidy at the expense of affordability. And the EBHO proposal to split the project in two (with one as deeply-subsidized apartments) is directly contradictory to Ms. Brunner&#039;s suggestion that units of different income levels be combined in a single building. I misunderstood the staff, who said that the units as proposed would be a range from 60 - 100%, which probably means that most will be sold to 100% AMI families.

I will correct some of the statements in my blog above. I should have included Rick Holliday&#039;s tale of removing tons of trash, including a meth lab, and his pioneering vision to increase West Oakland&#039;s housing stock by 10% while restoring an important historic building. I agree with Just Cause that we should maximize subsidized units (like, with density bonuses and little parking), but not at the expense of market-rate units, which pretty much fit the affordability thresholds anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, that&#8217;s not a bad idea. It does unscore that 100% AMI units aren&#8217;t far from market-rate, so cost less subsidy at the expense of affordability. And the EBHO proposal to split the project in two (with one as deeply-subsidized apartments) is directly contradictory to Ms. Brunner&#8217;s suggestion that units of different income levels be combined in a single building. I misunderstood the staff, who said that the units as proposed would be a range from 60 &#8211; 100%, which probably means that most will be sold to 100% AMI families.</p>
<p>I will correct some of the statements in my blog above. I should have included Rick Holliday&#8217;s tale of removing tons of trash, including a meth lab, and his pioneering vision to increase West Oakland&#8217;s housing stock by 10% while restoring an important historic building. I agree with Just Cause that we should maximize subsidized units (like, with density bonuses and little parking), but not at the expense of market-rate units, which pretty much fit the affordability thresholds anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: V Smoothe</title>
		<link>http://futureoaklandblog.com/2007/11/redevelopment-review/#comment-307</link>
		<dc:creator>V Smoothe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, that didn&#039;t happen. Two EBHO representatives spoke, but only one spoke to the purchase price. I have the public comment on video, and I&#039;ve transcribed the meat of the two comments in question below&quot;

The first EBHO representative (I can&#039;t understand his name...sounds like Ho Elton?) began by saying &quot;EBHO strongly supports the current staff recommendations as greatly improved from the condition 100 proposal that was submitted earlier this year.&quot; Hardly a &quot;strenuous objection.&quot; He then went on to suggest an alternative proposal.

&quot;EBHO is proposing that 100 of the units be rental that serve households making 30-60% of the area median income, and that the remaining units be ownership opportunities of 100% AMI. This will cost the city considerably less money, while at the same time providing affordable housing opportunities for Oakland&#039;s low to moderate income residents. Please consider this as you discuss the staff&#039;s recommendations.&quot;

Personally, I think this is an excellent plan. The second EBHO representative, Alyssa Dennis, complained about the purchase price.

Adam Gold from Just Cause Oakland began his comments by saying that Just Cause had &lt;i&gt;originally&lt;/i&gt; wanted the developer to pay for the subsidized housing, but then went on to endorse the proposal. He made no complaints about the purchase price.

&quot;I think the proposal in front of you is something that increases the number of affordable units and makes the city&#039;s expenses a little bit less. But the crucial thing to Just Cause and our members who fought on this is that we have to make sure that there&#039;s significant amount of affordable housing that gets built at Wood Street because it&#039;s such a major project. And so anything that will save money to the City in terms of the final cost of what they&#039;re subsidizing to this project so that other affordable housing can be built and will make sure there is more affordable units at Wood Street is something that we&#039;re gonna want to support and look at. And I think just one thing that&#039;s not in the staff report that we want to suggest is that there is some community process and input on the RFP itself. Cause I think there are things that could be worked in there such as preferences for more affordability within that parcel that gets purchased, maybe a mixed of rental and home ownership, things that could be incentivized to get that development even better for West Oakland residents.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, that didn&#8217;t happen. Two EBHO representatives spoke, but only one spoke to the purchase price. I have the public comment on video, and I&#8217;ve transcribed the meat of the two comments in question below&#8221;</p>
<p>The first EBHO representative (I can&#8217;t understand his name&#8230;sounds like Ho Elton?) began by saying &#8220;EBHO strongly supports the current staff recommendations as greatly improved from the condition 100 proposal that was submitted earlier this year.&#8221; Hardly a &#8220;strenuous objection.&#8221; He then went on to suggest an alternative proposal.</p>
<p>&#8220;EBHO is proposing that 100 of the units be rental that serve households making 30-60% of the area median income, and that the remaining units be ownership opportunities of 100% AMI. This will cost the city considerably less money, while at the same time providing affordable housing opportunities for Oakland&#8217;s low to moderate income residents. Please consider this as you discuss the staff&#8217;s recommendations.&#8221;</p>
<p>Personally, I think this is an excellent plan. The second EBHO representative, Alyssa Dennis, complained about the purchase price.</p>
<p>Adam Gold from Just Cause Oakland began his comments by saying that Just Cause had <i>originally</i> wanted the developer to pay for the subsidized housing, but then went on to endorse the proposal. He made no complaints about the purchase price.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think the proposal in front of you is something that increases the number of affordable units and makes the city&#8217;s expenses a little bit less. But the crucial thing to Just Cause and our members who fought on this is that we have to make sure that there&#8217;s significant amount of affordable housing that gets built at Wood Street because it&#8217;s such a major project. And so anything that will save money to the City in terms of the final cost of what they&#8217;re subsidizing to this project so that other affordable housing can be built and will make sure there is more affordable units at Wood Street is something that we&#8217;re gonna want to support and look at. And I think just one thing that&#8217;s not in the staff report that we want to suggest is that there is some community process and input on the RFP itself. Cause I think there are things that could be worked in there such as preferences for more affordability within that parcel that gets purchased, maybe a mixed of rental and home ownership, things that could be incentivized to get that development even better for West Oakland residents.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: dto510</title>
		<link>http://futureoaklandblog.com/2007/11/redevelopment-review/#comment-302</link>
		<dc:creator>dto510</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dr, I totally fail to understand what you mean by &quot;at his cost and not reap a windfall from the city&#039;s rezoning.&quot; The property was rezoned and subdivided a few years ago, as part of a master plan for the area. The land is private property, and the city is supposed to make zoning decisions based on the general plan and other city priorities, not in exchange for land or cash. The argument that rezoning carries some sort of implied fee to the city (beyond the increased property taxes the developer and his customers will pay) is at odds with basic ideas of city planning, private property, and public good. Should all rezoning decisions be made like billboards, so developers get to do anything they want based only on whether the Council likes their various handouts to various causes? If so, it&#039;s not clear that nonprofit housing developers would be first in line for bribery.

The summary presented by the staff said that the ownership units were at 60% AMI, and were for-sale. The non-profit developers wanted the 60% units for-rent (which I agree with), but in exchange, the for-sale units at a higher affordability threshold, ie a higher price. I will double-check the report, but that was my understanding, and it also fits with EBHO&#039;s claim that more expensive units would lower development costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dr, I totally fail to understand what you mean by &#8220;at his cost and not reap a windfall from the city&#8217;s rezoning.&#8221; The property was rezoned and subdivided a few years ago, as part of a master plan for the area. The land is private property, and the city is supposed to make zoning decisions based on the general plan and other city priorities, not in exchange for land or cash. The argument that rezoning carries some sort of implied fee to the city (beyond the increased property taxes the developer and his customers will pay) is at odds with basic ideas of city planning, private property, and public good. Should all rezoning decisions be made like billboards, so developers get to do anything they want based only on whether the Council likes their various handouts to various causes? If so, it&#8217;s not clear that nonprofit housing developers would be first in line for bribery.</p>
<p>The summary presented by the staff said that the ownership units were at 60% AMI, and were for-sale. The non-profit developers wanted the 60% units for-rent (which I agree with), but in exchange, the for-sale units at a higher affordability threshold, ie a higher price. I will double-check the report, but that was my understanding, and it also fits with EBHO&#8217;s claim that more expensive units would lower development costs.</p>
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		<title>By: dr</title>
		<link>http://futureoaklandblog.com/2007/11/redevelopment-review/#comment-303</link>
		<dc:creator>dr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You got it backward.  The staff proposal discussed at the committee would target households at 100% of area median income; the nonprofit housing developers wanted some of the units affordable as rentals to people at 60% of area median income.  The nonprofits also did not propose that the developer sell the land &quot;for free&quot;, just that he should sell it at his cost and not reap a windfall from the City&#039;s rezoning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got it backward.  The staff proposal discussed at the committee would target households at 100% of area median income; the nonprofit housing developers wanted some of the units affordable as rentals to people at 60% of area median income.  The nonprofits also did not propose that the developer sell the land &#8220;for free&#8221;, just that he should sell it at his cost and not reap a windfall from the City&#8217;s rezoning.</p>
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		<title>By: dto510</title>
		<link>http://futureoaklandblog.com/2007/11/redevelopment-review/#comment-305</link>
		<dc:creator>dto510</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, three people complained that the city should somehow seize the land - a Just Cause rep, and the two non-profit developers from EBHO. The developers seemed pretty pissed, and advocated for more units to be more expensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, three people complained that the city should somehow seize the land &#8211; a Just Cause rep, and the two non-profit developers from EBHO. The developers seemed pretty pissed, and advocated for more units to be more expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: V Smoothe</title>
		<link>http://futureoaklandblog.com/2007/11/redevelopment-review/#comment-304</link>
		<dc:creator>V Smoothe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;unpleasant spectacle of sharp disagreements over the city’s proposal to construct affordable housing next to Raimondi Park&quot;? &quot;Several non-profit housing developers strenuously objected&quot;?

&lt;i&gt;Come on&lt;/i&gt;. Did you watch the meeting? Nearly every speaker on the item was proud of the agreement they had reached and spoke strongly in favor. &lt;i&gt;One&lt;/i&gt; person complained about the land buy-back. I get that you&#039;re trying to make a point about BMR units, and it&#039;s a valid one, but you can&#039;t just invent public testimony because it helps your argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;unpleasant spectacle of sharp disagreements over the city’s proposal to construct affordable housing next to Raimondi Park&#8221;? &#8220;Several non-profit housing developers strenuously objected&#8221;?</p>
<p><i>Come on</i>. Did you watch the meeting? Nearly every speaker on the item was proud of the agreement they had reached and spoke strongly in favor. <i>One</i> person complained about the land buy-back. I get that you&#8217;re trying to make a point about BMR units, and it&#8217;s a valid one, but you can&#8217;t just invent public testimony because it helps your argument.</p>
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